Example of savings on a license when implementation of the server 1C enterprise
Good day, the article was written as a continuation of this opus. 1C is quite often criticized, often objective, but I will try to show by example that 1C provides the freedom of choice that at the present time at least deserves respect. Also a little count money.
The main activity of our company is IT outsourcing. Rather marketing-enthusiastsi purposes, we create templates of solutions that allow us to standardize the IT infrastructure players, and the client to obtain and most importantly to realize the savings (if he praises the report, no one will notice). Customers — small companies of 20 to 200 people. One such solution is the implementation of 1C server to free enterprise Linux + Postgres SQL. The article is not yet another technical implementation as all have been chewed and chewed. Will only compare our standard offer of 1C franchisees and our economical option may 2014.
To make the transition database with a file operation on a SQL-s ' option with the ability to use up to 20 customers.
We do not support 1C, because all of the recommendations: the necessity of switching from file to SQL database, license purchase, hardware the client receives from the accompanying 1C franchisee. Next is the consultation with us, we offer an alternative solution on conjunction 1C+Linux+Postgres SQL, and implemented.
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Often, the savings in the framework of our country is ruining any kind of system initiatives. It seems to me that this case is still different class. Three years ago when we introduced the 1C: enterprise server on Linux as standard for all our companies, we do no about the concerns heard from the implementers of the 1S that they take responsibility for the performance of the supported configurations do not "kosher" bundle Linux + Postgres SQL, and at the same time introducing the client to a state of panic.
Perhaps, given my calculations you can just blast a dozen critical arrows, for objectivity is difficult to apply, but want to convey a General idea of the financial component of the issue.
UPD. from Thug21
the client hardware and software licenses are consumed differently in client-server mode.
Software spent on each connection
Hardware on the computer.
UPD from sales@1c.ru
the technical possibility to work without key is not oznachaet legal permission to do so. The law on the legal protection of information for computer prohibits the use of any software products in the copyright of which does not declare them free of charge (and we never announced the server is free).
Sincerely, Manager of sales Department Viktor Bykov
Please save the history of correspondence with further applications.
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prologue.
The main activity of our company is IT outsourcing. Rather marketing-enthusiastsi purposes, we create templates of solutions that allow us to standardize the IT infrastructure players, and the client to obtain and most importantly to realize the savings (if he praises the report, no one will notice). Customers — small companies of 20 to 200 people. One such solution is the implementation of 1C server to free enterprise Linux + Postgres SQL. The article is not yet another technical implementation as all have been chewed and chewed. Will only compare our standard offer of 1C franchisees and our economical option may 2014.
Problem # 1.
To make the transition database with a file operation on a SQL-s ' option with the ability to use up to 20 customers.
Calculation of the two options.
We do not support 1C, because all of the recommendations: the necessity of switching from file to SQL database, license purchase, hardware the client receives from the accompanying 1C franchisee. Next is the consultation with us, we offer an alternative solution on conjunction 1C+Linux+Postgres SQL, and implemented.
a Proposal by 20 users.
Name | Standard 1C franchisee of Windows + MSSQL (RUB) | Option sanity Linux + Postgres SQL (RUB) |
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License 1C | ||
1C: Enterprise 8.3.Server license (x86-64) | - | 86400 |
1C: Enterprise 8.3.Server license (x86-64) (USB) | 103700 | - |
cal 20 jobs 1C: Enterprise 8 (USB) | 97600 | - |
1C: Enterprise 8. Client license for 20 workplaces | - | 78000 |
License SQL | ||
server License MS SQL Server Standard 2012 Runtime for users of 1C: Enterprise 8 | 13381 | 0 |
Client access on 20 workstations to MS SQL Server 2012 Runtime for 1C: Enterprise 8 | 117748 | 0 |
total | 332429 | 164400 |
Saving | 168029 |
Explanations and nuances:
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- Implementers of 1S (in the universe of course there are others who are trying to save the client, but we did not come across) by default offer the option USB keys, they are significantly more expensive file licenses. Of course, the choice of key type does not depend on the platform implementation. Out in the table made the trick in favor of Linux. I have to remind you that we are not talking about a rigorous evaluation of the proposals, and the fresh example of the practice. For the sake of objectivity, I should clarify that in my opinion implementers in favour of USB keys in order to increase spending, but for the sake of reliability of application and ease of future maintenance, "especially" if we are talking about implementing on Linux + Postgres SQL.
- does Not include the cost of the work. In our case it is included in the contract of service, because the customer is zero. We assume that the introduction and further support is roughly the same.
Often, we also for small companies acquire key 1C: Enterprise x86, not 64. While Postgres SQL use 64 bit version and 1C: enterprise server 32 bit. The application across organizations up to 60 people, we consider it appropriate, the thesis of the subjective. the
Problem # 2 + bonus 1S
to make the transition database with a file operation on a SQL-s ' option with the ability to use up to 10 clients.
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Proposal for 10 users
Name | Standard 1C franchisee of Windows + MSSQL (RUB) | Option sanity Linux + Postgres SQL (RUB) |
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License 1C | ||
1C: Enterprise 8.3.Server license (x86-64) | - | 0 |
1C: Enterprise 8.3.Server license (x86-64) (USB) | 103700 | - |
cal 10 jobs 1C: Enterprise 8 (USB) | 51900 | - |
1C: Enterprise 8. Client license for 10 workplaces | - | 41400 |
License SQL | ||
server License MS SQL Server Standard 2012 Runtime for users of 1C: Enterprise 8 | 13381 | 0 |
Client access for 10 jobs to MS SQL Server 2012 Runtime for 1C: Enterprise 8 | 58874 | 0 |
total | 227855 | 41400 |
Saving | 186455 |
addition to the nuances of the example 1
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- Good 1C allows the use of 1C enterprise server for Linux for 12 clients without a key server enterprise for Windows kind. The bonus is questionable, because the 10 users will be able to file through, but still enjoyable.
Up.
Often, the savings in the framework of our country is ruining any kind of system initiatives. It seems to me that this case is still different class. Three years ago when we introduced the 1C: enterprise server on Linux as standard for all our companies, we do no about the concerns heard from the implementers of the 1S that they take responsibility for the performance of the supported configurations do not "kosher" bundle Linux + Postgres SQL, and at the same time introducing the client to a state of panic.
Perhaps, given my calculations you can just blast a dozen critical arrows, for objectivity is difficult to apply, but want to convey a General idea of the financial component of the issue.
UPD. from Thug21
the client hardware and software licenses are consumed differently in client-server mode.
Software spent on each connection
Hardware on the computer.
UPD from sales@1c.ru
the technical possibility to work without key is not oznachaet legal permission to do so. The law on the legal protection of information for computer prohibits the use of any software products in the copyright of which does not declare them free of charge (and we never announced the server is free).
Sincerely, Manager of sales Department Viktor Bykov
Please save the history of correspondence with further applications.
PS:
Often, employers colleagues who are implementing similar solutions and do not realize the money saved. We have the same works the following diagram.
Offer of 1C franchisees on offer from us on the server. "Our" budget for the server is cut, usually twice. We offer alternative licensing decision, insisting that the savings return to the hardware part. It turns out that 1C is lobbying our desire to work with the server equipment.
Offer of 1C franchisees on offer from us on the server. "Our" budget for the server is cut, usually twice. We offer alternative licensing decision, insisting that the savings return to the hardware part. It turns out that 1C is lobbying our desire to work with the server equipment.
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